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	<link>http://hygienehealth.mydietblogger.com</link>
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		<title>Comment on Vitamin B12 by Briefe Schreiben</title>
		<link>http://hygienehealth.mydietblogger.com/2008/08/16/vitamin-b12/#comment-10166</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 02:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hi there! Your Post &quot;Vitamin B12&quot; is very interesting for me. Unfortunately my written English is not so good so I write in German: Dir, meinem liebsten, gehört mein Herz vom Anfang bis zum Ende, in Freude und Schmerz. Für dich, mein Liebster ist mir nichts zu viel, ob Himmel, ob Hölle, nur du bist mein Ziel. Yours sincerely Briefe Schreiben</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there! Your Post &#8220;Vitamin B12&#8243; is very interesting for me. Unfortunately my written English is not so good so I write in German: Dir, meinem liebsten, gehört mein Herz vom Anfang bis zum Ende, in Freude und Schmerz. Für dich, mein Liebster ist mir nichts zu viel, ob Himmel, ob Hölle, nur du bist mein Ziel. Yours sincerely Briefe Schreiben
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		<title>Comment on Studies and Research by dontloseyourhair</title>
		<link>http://hygienehealth.mydietblogger.com/2008/11/19/studies-and-research-are-done-on-disease/#comment-10165</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 03:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hi there, really enjoying your style - good to have you in the blogosphere - you aren't just talkin to yourself!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there, really enjoying your style - good to have you in the blogosphere - you aren&#8217;t just talkin to yourself!
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		<title>Comment on Studies and Research by Cesar Moves</title>
		<link>http://hygienehealth.mydietblogger.com/2008/11/19/studies-and-research-are-done-on-disease/#comment-10164</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 02:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>That was an amazing post, and it earned you a new RSS subscriber. Keep up the good work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was an amazing post, and it earned you a new RSS subscriber. Keep up the good work!
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		<title>Comment on Sugar is sugar OR Fat is fat? by hygienehealth</title>
		<link>http://hygienehealth.mydietblogger.com/2008/10/22/sugar-is-sugar-or-fat-is-fat/#comment-10161</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>You are wrong. The book is in the public domain.

Anyway here is the link:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library/price/pricetoc.html&quot;&gt;http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library/price/pricetoc.html&lt;/a&gt;

I have not read all of the book but from the parts that I did read I feel Dr. Campbell made a fair assessment of the book. WAPF has stretched the information that the book gives to their own requirements. Nothing in the book (so far) tells me that eating animal foods high in fat are good for health. Even the chapter on eskimosÂ  has this excerpt:

&quot;Cordova, Alaska, Oct. 26, 1934--Due to susceptibility to tuberculosis and other diseases the average life span of the Eskimo of Alaska is only 20 years and their race is doomed to extinction within a few generations unless modern medical science comes to their aid.&quot;

If they are so healthy their immune systems would prevent them from getting TB. They are anything but healthy as compared to people who follow a natural hygiene lifestyle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are wrong. The book is in the public domain.</p>
<p>Anyway here is the link:</p>
<p><a href="http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library/price/pricetoc.html"><a href='http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library/price/pricetoc.html' rel='nofollow'>http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library/price/pricetoc.html</a></a></p>
<p>I have not read all of the book but from the parts that I did read I feel Dr. Campbell made a fair assessment of the book. WAPF has stretched the information that the book gives to their own requirements. Nothing in the book (so far) tells me that eating animal foods high in fat are good for health. Even the chapter on eskimosÂ  has this excerpt:</p>
<p>&#8220;Cordova, Alaska, Oct. 26, 1934&#8211;Due to susceptibility to tuberculosis and other diseases the average life span of the Eskimo of Alaska is only 20 years and their race is doomed to extinction within a few generations unless modern medical science comes to their aid.&#8221;</p>
<p>If they are so healthy their immune systems would prevent them from getting TB. They are anything but healthy as compared to people who follow a natural hygiene lifestyle.
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		<title>Comment on Water by Online Doctor Consultation</title>
		<link>http://hygienehealth.mydietblogger.com/2007/09/28/water/#comment-10160</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 04:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Drinking water is good for health</description>
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		<title>Comment on Sugar is sugar OR Fat is fat? by Joanne of Open Mind Required</title>
		<link>http://hygienehealth.mydietblogger.com/2008/10/22/sugar-is-sugar-or-fat-is-fat/#comment-10159</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I don't know what a &quot;torrent&quot; is, but as far as I know the book is copyrighted. You cannot download it. If you do find a downloadable version, please let me know. 

I also seriously suggest you read it yourself instead of relying on Campbell to interpret it for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know what a &#8220;torrent&#8221; is, but as far as I know the book is copyrighted. You cannot download it. If you do find a downloadable version, please let me know. </p>
<p>I also seriously suggest you read it yourself instead of relying on Campbell to interpret it for you.
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		<title>Comment on Sugar is sugar OR Fat is fat? by hygienehealth</title>
		<link>http://hygienehealth.mydietblogger.com/2008/10/22/sugar-is-sugar-or-fat-is-fat/#comment-10158</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>No, I have not read it. I heard it might be available as a torrent. Do you know where I can download it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I have not read it. I heard it might be available as a torrent. Do you know where I can download it?
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		<title>Comment on Sugar is sugar OR Fat is fat? by Joanne of Open Mind Required</title>
		<link>http://hygienehealth.mydietblogger.com/2008/10/22/sugar-is-sugar-or-fat-is-fat/#comment-10157</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 13:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Have you yourself read Nutrition and Physical Degeneration?</description>
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		<title>Comment on Sugar is sugar OR Fat is fat? by hygienehealth</title>
		<link>http://hygienehealth.mydietblogger.com/2008/10/22/sugar-is-sugar-or-fat-is-fat/#comment-10155</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 06:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Weston Price was a dentist and based all of his discoveries on the condition of teeth. Here is a excerpt from Colin Campbell about WAPF:

Price's main book was published in the late 1930sâ€”at least this is the book that is most commonly cited by WAPF. I bought the book, carefully read it and learned that the WAPF staff and associates substantially exaggerate, in my opinion, the importance of Price's observations and the importance of his book. Price was a dental surgeon who visited more than a dozen indigenous populations around the world and became quite impressed with the overall good health of these geographically isolated people when compared with their kin who had become exposed to commerce from other lands. He seemed to regard these native peoples as the nearest link to our own past. With background in dentistry, Price assessed their health mainly by dental caries incidence and facial structures, supplementing his observations with many photographs. Although he made certain inferences about health in general, he published no reliable empirical data to support this view.

In brief, Weston Price's suggestion that dental caries was associated with the introduction of commerce (probably including processed and sweetened food products) was quite convincing, not unlike similar reports of others. He also speculated about an 'X' factor in milk fat, supposedly suggesting health benefits for cow's milk, but no follow-up findings on this 'X' factor consistent with human health have since been reported. In no way did Price publish reliable data in this book that could be used to evaluate the relationship of food with overall health. He did speculate, however, with some evidence, on the loss of nutritional value of food at that time (1920s-1930s) as a result of soil depletion and overuse. Excepting his observations on an association of dental caries incidence with processed food, Price's study, in my opinion, is of limited scientific value.

The WAPF enthusiasts nonetheless suggest that this was a major survey of the relationship of food with human health, perhaps being one of the most important. Either by statements or inferences, WAPF writers and enthusiasts then go on from Price's meager observations to aggressively claim health benefits for animal based foods, especially those associated with unprocessed, raw cow's milk produced by grass-fed animals.

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Nothing in what you posted shows that these inuit people were healthier than people who ate less fat but ate whole foods. You can not compare people who ate whole foods that were totally comprised of animal fats with others who eat little whole foods. Comparisons between the animal fat eating people and whole plant eating people would be appropriate but this is not shown in any of your information. There is no evidence that these people were healthier than people who ate a diet of whole plant foods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weston Price was a dentist and based all of his discoveries on the condition of teeth. Here is a excerpt from Colin Campbell about WAPF:</p>
<p>Price&#8217;s main book was published in the late 1930sâ€”at least this is the book that is most commonly cited by WAPF. I bought the book, carefully read it and learned that the WAPF staff and associates substantially exaggerate, in my opinion, the importance of Price&#8217;s observations and the importance of his book. Price was a dental surgeon who visited more than a dozen indigenous populations around the world and became quite impressed with the overall good health of these geographically isolated people when compared with their kin who had become exposed to commerce from other lands. He seemed to regard these native peoples as the nearest link to our own past. With background in dentistry, Price assessed their health mainly by dental caries incidence and facial structures, supplementing his observations with many photographs. Although he made certain inferences about health in general, he published no reliable empirical data to support this view.</p>
<p>In brief, Weston Price&#8217;s suggestion that dental caries was associated with the introduction of commerce (probably including processed and sweetened food products) was quite convincing, not unlike similar reports of others. He also speculated about an &#8216;X&#8217; factor in milk fat, supposedly suggesting health benefits for cow&#8217;s milk, but no follow-up findings on this &#8216;X&#8217; factor consistent with human health have since been reported. In no way did Price publish reliable data in this book that could be used to evaluate the relationship of food with overall health. He did speculate, however, with some evidence, on the loss of nutritional value of food at that time (1920s-1930s) as a result of soil depletion and overuse. Excepting his observations on an association of dental caries incidence with processed food, Price&#8217;s study, in my opinion, is of limited scientific value.</p>
<p>The WAPF enthusiasts nonetheless suggest that this was a major survey of the relationship of food with human health, perhaps being one of the most important. Either by statements or inferences, WAPF writers and enthusiasts then go on from Price&#8217;s meager observations to aggressively claim health benefits for animal based foods, especially those associated with unprocessed, raw cow&#8217;s milk produced by grass-fed animals.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Nothing in what you posted shows that these inuit people were healthier than people who ate less fat but ate whole foods. You can not compare people who ate whole foods that were totally comprised of animal fats with others who eat little whole foods. Comparisons between the animal fat eating people and whole plant eating people would be appropriate but this is not shown in any of your information. There is no evidence that these people were healthier than people who ate a diet of whole plant foods.
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		<title>Comment on Sugar is sugar OR Fat is fat? by Joanne of Open Mind Required</title>
		<link>http://hygienehealth.mydietblogger.com/2008/10/22/sugar-is-sugar-or-fat-is-fat/#comment-10153</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 05:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Weston Price in the 1930s wrote of the Inuit:

&quot;In his primitive state he has provided an example of physical excellence and dental perfection such as has seldom been excelled by any race in the past or present...&quot;  

Do you have the stats for the Inuits living in 1930? And cause of deaths?

Longevity stats are pretty meaningless. How many Inuit have access to blood thinners, arterial grafts, pacemakers, and the array of orthodox methodologies for keeping people alive who should be dead? Do these stat averages include infant mortality? How about lifestyle and environmental factors? 

Americans supposedly live longer than we did 100 years ago, but cancer, cardiovascular disease, diabetes, arthritis, etc., are crippling us and killing us prematurely. So are we healthier now because we live longer? Or do we live longer because our ill health funnels most of our GNP to health care? Or perhaps because infant mortality has decreased?

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From &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.westonaprice.org/federalupdate/aa2003/actionalert_051403.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Potential Impact of Nutritional Genomics&lt;/a&gt;:

The Alaskan Inuit, whose metabolism was perfectly suited to moving around all day, looking for high-fat food, were suddenly saddled with an evolutionary disadvantage when they began living in heated homes and traveling on snowmobiles, and they now show high levels of obesity, diabetes and cardiovascular disease. 

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From Food and Evolution: &quot;This metabolc adaptation [gluconeogenesis] to a long-term nutrient imbalance represents a genototrophic adaptation among Inuit and Aleuts. Unfortunately, it becomes maladaptive when carbohydrate intake rapidly increases as part of other dietary and lifestyle changes.&quot;

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Here's a link discussing many of the issues regarding the Inuit:

&lt;a&gt;The Inuit: Lessons from the Arctic&lt;/a&gt;.

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Have you read Nutrition and Physical Degeneration by Weston Price?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weston Price in the 1930s wrote of the Inuit:</p>
<p>&#8220;In his primitive state he has provided an example of physical excellence and dental perfection such as has seldom been excelled by any race in the past or present&#8230;&#8221;  </p>
<p>Do you have the stats for the Inuits living in 1930? And cause of deaths?</p>
<p>Longevity stats are pretty meaningless. How many Inuit have access to blood thinners, arterial grafts, pacemakers, and the array of orthodox methodologies for keeping people alive who should be dead? Do these stat averages include infant mortality? How about lifestyle and environmental factors? </p>
<p>Americans supposedly live longer than we did 100 years ago, but cancer, cardiovascular disease, diabetes, arthritis, etc., are crippling us and killing us prematurely. So are we healthier now because we live longer? Or do we live longer because our ill health funnels most of our GNP to health care? Or perhaps because infant mortality has decreased?</p>
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<p>From <a href="http://www.westonaprice.org/federalupdate/aa2003/actionalert_051403.html" rel="nofollow">Potential Impact of Nutritional Genomics</a>:</p>
<p>The Alaskan Inuit, whose metabolism was perfectly suited to moving around all day, looking for high-fat food, were suddenly saddled with an evolutionary disadvantage when they began living in heated homes and traveling on snowmobiles, and they now show high levels of obesity, diabetes and cardiovascular disease. </p>
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<p>From Food and Evolution: &#8220;This metabolc adaptation [gluconeogenesis] to a long-term nutrient imbalance represents a genototrophic adaptation among Inuit and Aleuts. Unfortunately, it becomes maladaptive when carbohydrate intake rapidly increases as part of other dietary and lifestyle changes.&#8221;</p>
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<p>Here&#8217;s a link discussing many of the issues regarding the Inuit:</p>
<p><a>The Inuit: Lessons from the Arctic</a>.</p>
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<p>Have you read Nutrition and Physical Degeneration by Weston Price?
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